Comments on Just Comment: Commuting or Community Churches?

Yes this could be the change ion lifestyle... beca...

2008-06-09T11:04:00.000+12:00

Yes this could be the change ion lifestyle... because we can communte- we can jsut be around christians and do church stuff/activity...

Lucy and Tim going simple and incarnational at http://lucyar.blogspot.com/

I have been pondering over shane claibornes comments about redistribution- he quotes some legends like Dorothy day ' if you have two coats, one belongs to the poor'... how actually is our thinking that'if i have two coats, i will give (thinking im very generous) to the poor'. Shifting state of mind/paradigm to think- 'if i like in a community, i am here for a reason (often we say we are 'called to things' away from our communities like a big city church for example), and therefore i invest/live/experience here where i am'. The redistribution of us as christians aye. When we say we are 'blessed' to be so privledgted and to drive cars etc. actually we are not... that is us takign what is not ours, taking more than we need, and taking from others...stealing really.

A quote from AmieB's comment ... "well maybe we wi...

2008-05-27T20:56:00.000+12:00

A quote from AmieB's comment ... "well maybe we will actually be forced to change our lifestyles" ... More to the point I think we (Christian's) may be forced to live in community with non-believers (think Luke 10 where Jesus sends out the 72 disciples).

Also, AimeB ... where is the Tim and Lucy story?

Christian community is not about Church. It is whe...

2008-05-27T12:06:00.000+12:00

Christian community is not about Church. It is where God is. Where I live you have to travel 4 kms to the nearest church which is a Jehovah's Witness Centre. Even though I live in a new housing area, there is no social infrastructure there. We have to travel for everything! Perhaps we need to be challenging our local planners and developers,rather than our Churches. Community of any kind requires interest, care, and love for it to happen. God is already there for us to find in each other. Perhaps life isn't supposed to be lived at the hectic pace we do these days. I remember being surprised at seeing a full family walking down the street in Clendon. I assumed they were too poor to have a car, but maybe they were just walking to church!

one more thing... check out Lucy and Tims story- A...

2008-05-27T09:00:00.000+12:00

one more thing... check out Lucy and Tims story- Attempting Abandonment link...

This is a really challenging point you make. I hea...

2008-05-27T08:58:00.000+12:00

This is a really challenging point you make. I heard in an interview this guy say 'well maybe we will actually be forced to change our lifestyles', instead of just talking about it... and this is our lifestyles in a wholistic sense- spiritual, transport wise, job wise, etc.

I love this post. I really think that there's some...

2008-05-27T08:35:00.000+12:00

I love this post. I really think that there's something to this discussion of walkability that needs to be truly and deeply considered.

I know that there's a certain kind of evangelical theology that currently affirms the beacon church. I wonder if peak oil won't do something to right that wrong.

There's something to the old parish system. There's something to the whole idea of knowing a place. And if we follow Brueggemann's line of thought, we understand that Israel's community life could never be distanced from its relationship to the land, and relationship to God.

When either of those came undone, then things started to fall apart for them.

So I guess we need to keep on fuelling this discussion. Because there is definitely something to it. I'm glad you're also on the trail!

andrew

This is a very good question to ask especially in ...

2008-05-22T10:30:00.000+12:00

This is a very good question to ask especially in the context of many congregations being wealthy enough to sustain driving out of the community the live in to attend church. What does God require of us? To love him with everything we have and are, and love your neighbour as yourself ... who is my neighbour? Surely that depends on whether I'm in my work community, my church community, my home community, my sporting community etc.